tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22592352.post814103142725237123..comments2023-08-06T09:39:21.683+02:00Comments on Random Thoughts from Bennett Kankuzi: Why I am a 'non-trinitarian' Seventh-Day Adventist (Part 3)Bennett Kankuzihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16521799913916934221noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22592352.post-27263868634046405432017-10-21T10:14:49.056+02:002017-10-21T10:14:49.056+02:00Hello brother! I am a seventh-day adventist too. A...Hello brother! I am a seventh-day adventist too. And recently i have studied this trinity doctrine and im now convinced of its error. May i ask how now do you keep the Sabbath? Have you found a church that is non-trinitarian, sabbath keeper and are now members of that church?or do you do home church? Coz my concern is my son. I dont want to shock him too soon that i no longer feel like attending our local SDA church. Any advice that you can give. Thank you very much! Blessings from above!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10253242656164684264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22592352.post-11789014982508009482017-09-09T13:17:04.178+02:002017-09-09T13:17:04.178+02:00The enlightenment is getting brighter, and brighte...The enlightenment is getting brighter, and brighter, many are genuinely searching, and seeking<br />the TRUTH. We must continue to do Jehovah's (YAWEH's), will and speak about these truths<br />as He guides each of us to do so.<br />Have a blessed Sabbath ��Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16741618748799772077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22592352.post-84250272697103981082017-09-09T08:46:05.340+02:002017-09-09T08:46:05.340+02:00Its good to find that I am not alone. "The Fa...Its good to find that I am not alone. "The Father and The Son alone are to be worshiped."<br />We were trying to help a Jehovah's Witness with understanding the trinity doctrine. I decided to study the topic through reading the New Testament. There were too many contradictions. I smelt a deception. I decided to do a dedicated study of the Holy Spirit from Genesis to Revelation. I did not see God the Holy Spirit as they want us to see. I saw the Spirit of God. I also see The Son of God, and not God the son. If, and, when Jesus ceases to be the literal Son of God then simple scriptures like John 3:16 lose their meaning. It was confusing, but I thank God for Restoration Ministries, Revelation 1412, Alex Ortega, Terry Hill, and recently Daniel Mesa on Youtube. I am now an established believer in the One True God and His Son. I am no longer an antichrist (1 John 2:22-23). Let's spread the word about the God who loved us and send His only begotten Son. People need to know. I cannot keep it to myself.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09757261917819131464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22592352.post-40633341013424625212017-09-09T08:12:27.855+02:002017-09-09T08:12:27.855+02:00We were trying to help a Jahovah's Witness guy...We were trying to help a Jahovah's Witness guy on a Whatsapp Bible Study group with the understanding of the Trinity. I read through the New Testament and to my surprise I did not see the Trinity. What most people is the Trinity is just number three. If you read the definition before reading the Bible, you will see the error. It was confusing, but I decided to study The Holy Spirit from Genesis to Revelation. I have come to realize that Christ was coming back to us in the Spirit. A deeper understanding of John 14 and not just being caught up on "another Comforter" will reveal that Jesus is the one who was to manifest himself to the desciples. The word comforter is the same as the word advocate in 1 John 2:1. I am now at peace with my understanding through watching Nader Mansour, David Clayton, Alex Ortega, Bill Pinto and recently Daniel Mesa. As I read through the Bible the deception becomes very obvious. I thank God for you all. Keep spreading the good news about the Father and the Son.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09757261917819131464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22592352.post-66120715310943494292017-08-14T02:25:55.611+02:002017-08-14T02:25:55.611+02:00I agree with Denise Corklin and Abigail. Abigail, ...I agree with Denise Corklin and Abigail. Abigail, I have recently found Alex Ortega and have been so happy to hear his truly deep understanding of Ellen White's writings, especially regarding her non-trinitarian faith. The trinity misconception has increasingly swept the Advent movement for the past 3 generations. Today seems the Father's timing to uncover this deception. And Denise, I certainly look forward to hearing your husband's sermons on the web address you listed above. I have been encouraged to hear all the awaking interest in 1) the one true God, 2) His Son, and 3) the soul(s) walking with the Son (through His Spirit). This is the only true biblical three-some. Its Jesus who suffered for us that can intercede for us, not a third god who never suffered for us. Alex Ortega has a website with many folks who comment, but it seems glutted and confusing. Nevertheless, it means than a multitude of others are filing in behind Jesus the only begotten Son of God.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11461098129321557584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22592352.post-27506377501907026402017-06-19T01:11:00.480+02:002017-06-19T01:11:00.480+02:00Muli bwanji, Bennet! Tili bwino nditu. Our family ...Muli bwanji, Bennet! Tili bwino nditu. Our family enjoyed six wonderful years in Malawi, dziko lokongola! Your banner picture of Mulanji brings back many fond memories. Since 2007 we, too, discovered the joy of truly fellowshipping with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father in truth and love (1John 1:3; 2John3). It has cost us our church membership, but we are still Seventh-day Adventists--original, traditional ones and find great comfort in knowing that the founders of this movement were grounded in the Scriptures and recognized only what they called "a Christian trinity"--the Father, His Son (the one mediator between God and men), and us! Ellen White said several times that John 17 should be our church creed (3SM p.21, ST May 2, 1900). Jesus summarized this relationship in the final verse of that chapter: "that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them." The Father's love is in His Son, and God has sent the Spirit of His Son into our hearts crying, Abba, Father (Gal 4:6). We continue to pray for our church and it leadership. They are in great danger if they do not repent and confess like all those who met Jesus in the New Testament that "truly, this man was the Son of God" and as Peter said, "the Son of the living God", or as Jesus said he was the Son of the one true God. With internet places where minds can meet, we can encourage each other and enjoy sharing. Pitani bwino! Posachedwa tidzapita kwathu.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09776699232794779509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22592352.post-34717755739429424502017-05-17T20:06:43.513+02:002017-05-17T20:06:43.513+02:00For persons looking for additional sermons to help...For persons looking for additional sermons to help grow their faith in the Father and the Son, there is a former Adventist pastor who has been preaching this message for the last 40 years. His name is Alex Ortega and I've left the link below to a youtube channel with his audio sermons, as well as a website. His messages are biblical and follow the Spirit of Prophecy:<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/user/gymrat100000/videos<br /><br />http://secondadventrevival.org/<br /><br />Blessings!<br /><br />abigailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13092683163663557882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22592352.post-9326881025492502982017-05-14T03:48:40.537+02:002017-05-14T03:48:40.537+02:00I and my birth family, as well as my family by mar...I and my birth family, as well as my family by marriage are all non-trinitarian Seventh Day Adventists. We are blessed in that my husband Ken, is a humble, yet gifted speaker and teacher, and yet still we have few others to fellowship with on a regular basis. We attend, and my husband is often asked to speak at , various small camp gatherings in the USA, JAmaica, Australia, Hungary, Germany and Romania. In the US we have yearly meetings in Spokane and Wenatchee Washington, as well as in the Roan Mtn region of Tennessee. We know many like believers from many states in the US, but yes, each is generally isolated in small cloisters of believers often consisting of just one or two families....but sometimes as many as 20. If you are looking to find more believers in your area you might want to contact Howard Williams of Restoration Ministries. His website is http://www.restorationministry.com. Howard has been helping to connect fellow believers,particularly here in the US. He is a sweet, and jovial dear friend of my family and you can easily find him and his sermons on YouTube. I know most of the families and individuals who hold to the truth are sincerely hungry for fellowship . It's time, I believe, to start reaching out and making connections with our true brothers and sisters. I got on today once again searching for myself of any connection with others. I hope the moderator of this website will allow for the posting of my two locations in hopes of connecting with others in these ares. May we all be blessed by the loving mercies of our Almighty Father, and his true Son, Jesus Christ . Happy Sabbath to all. <br /><br />Denise Corklin <br />Erie, Pennsylvania and Port Angels, WashingtonAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14836869266362110904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22592352.post-19757762927446387262017-03-31T06:11:11.712+02:002017-03-31T06:11:11.712+02:00I love my church. Whether it be self-supporting, i...I love my church. Whether it be self-supporting, independent, official ECT.<br />It's unfortunate how divided we are but ancient Israel was no different. <br /> Let's keep praying for the latter rain brothers and sisters..<br /> For there is one God the Father, and one Lord Jesus Christ... Amen.<br /> Dallas, TXAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14930376162829573368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22592352.post-71983465511059204762017-02-24T20:04:42.625+02:002017-02-24T20:04:42.625+02:00Boateng, you are so correct about the hostility. O...Boateng, you are so correct about the hostility. Our pastor actually started yelling at us during fellowship lunch, because we were talking to one of the elders and his wife about it. He actually likened the belief of our pioneers to that of Jehovah Witness theology. It really is very sad how deceived we have been as a church. I've tried to share more information with him via email and with others as much as they will let me. But truly people are just not interest in what you have to say. They feel as thought you are attacking their church, but they do not realize that the church that God raised up is not the same church today. We just have to keep praying for them.abigailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13092683163663557882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22592352.post-54558859403280895502017-02-20T14:27:17.037+02:002017-02-20T14:27:17.037+02:00Is out there in London any non Trenitarian Sabbath...Is out there in London any non Trenitarian Sabbath keeping church or denomination,please call me,I would like to worship with you.<br />heartenian@ yahoo.co.ukAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16651794418979612894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22592352.post-76069846117476441772017-02-19T10:35:32.118+02:002017-02-19T10:35:32.118+02:00Amén you'll!
Colossians 1:27 (KJV) To whom G...Amén you'll!<br /><br />Colossians 1:27 (KJV) To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:<br /><br />http://www.bibleforandroid.com/v/fb843b718c4cAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02167641221109803179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22592352.post-74407466447094091522017-02-11T01:50:10.126+02:002017-02-11T01:50:10.126+02:00As this Sabbath begins I pray for my fellow brothe...As this Sabbath begins I pray for my fellow brothers and sisters whom have received the light about the Trinity. We must be firm and not sway with the masses. It's not easy, even singing in songs of praise and worship will evoke feelings of uneasiness, because they are ALL to Jesus, not Jehovah.<br /><br />We must continue to pray for continued enlightment.<br /><br />Happy SabbathAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16741618748799772077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22592352.post-27761154121323463472017-02-06T02:25:35.579+02:002017-02-06T02:25:35.579+02:00Hello Brothers and Sisters. I am not sure if this ...Hello Brothers and Sisters. I am not sure if this thread is still alive but I will like to say how blessed I was to read the article and the comments. My wife and I am also non-tinitiarian SDAs and have been for about 3 years. Personally, when I first came across the truth, I was mad and very skeptical. I said: "How can the SDA Church be so wrong when we had the Messenger of God as a guide for many years?" Then, as I studied, I found out the Ellen White and the Pioneers were never trinitarians. What a relief that was. But more than that, the scales literally fell from my eyes as someone has already stated. Almost ALL the verses that Trinitarians quote to support the trinity said just the opposite! As for the hostility, I did not expect it to be so strong, but it is. Sometimes vocal and other times soft but persistent. What I find, is that many are not willing to study for themselves because it is easier and more convenient to tow the official line. And many seem to worry about what others will say about them.The first quarter 2017 study is about the Holy Spirit, so I thought this is the time to share some truth that I have found in the word of God during the lessons. But boy, was I wrong! Angry looks and verbal opposition even when I am quoting from the Bible. And I am left thinking- how can something so clear not be understood- even resisted and interpreted to fit into a trinity? But we must continue to pray for wisdom to share what God has given us without bitterness or animosity for we are all brethren. Some are searching still and it is only the Spirit of God who will direct and teach them the truth. I so wish we could had a "non-trinitarian SDA line" where like-minded non trinitarian SDAs can meed and share ideas and the word of God and encourage each other. I think one of the many Free Conference lines now available online can serve this purpose. I am curious as to what you all think about this idea. Finding a non-trinitarian SDA congregation is a bit like looking for a Protestant church in Vatican City! (maybe not as hard but you get the idea..). God bless you all!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18167906277339614728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22592352.post-56191053261774941662016-08-31T14:10:56.639+02:002016-08-31T14:10:56.639+02:00Amen Amen Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14920348990235482900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22592352.post-35833473127995894842016-08-27T16:40:41.285+02:002016-08-27T16:40:41.285+02:00I also am a non-trinitarian Sabbath keeper. I am ...I also am a non-trinitarian Sabbath keeper. I am looking for a place to worship with like minded individuals, however I am finding this is a difficult task. I am in Atlanta GA. We must remain faithful, and adhere to the TRUTH. My prayer is that Jehovah will guide each of us to others who share beliefs of Jehovah the Father Jesus the Son and The Holy Spirit (Jehovah's spirit which guides and directs our mind), and the keeping The Sabbath Holy. So that we may enjoy the fellowshipping and building each other up spiritually. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16741618748799772077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22592352.post-28776234262888001932016-02-16T21:30:27.118+02:002016-02-16T21:30:27.118+02:00I too have just come across this wonderful truth o...I too have just come across this wonderful truth of about God. I'm having a marvelous time studying the scriptures now. It's amazing how the scales have fallen from my eyes and now can read and see Him so clearly as the one true God and the only Begotten Son. I'm searching for a group to visit this Sabbath that are also non-Trinidadians in Charlotte, NC. Keep studying friends and sharing this truth about the Father. The devil has stolen a march upon this church and the omega of apostasy is quite startling. So just keep in mind how we were when under that delusion. I wish we could all get together.:) Maybe we could Pariscope? Anyway be blessed my brethren.<br />'DiAnn<br />North CarolinaAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17054082919750677095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22592352.post-13992753991127765512016-01-30T04:51:24.856+02:002016-01-30T04:51:24.856+02:00I am delighted to find more Bible based support of...I am delighted to find more Bible based support of non-trinitarian theology. My struggle is that after a lifetime of study, I now am also leaning towards a more Calvinist theology. The more I seek God's real truth, the more I conclude that God intends for much of His truth to remain a mystery until such time as He chooses to clarify it. I sure don't understand why, but Jesus himself made many statements that he felt no need to clarify. Oh how I wish I could find a church again the really abided by the beliefs of unity in the essentials, respectful support of differing conclusions in the non-essentials or the debatable scriptures. One thing I know, God does not want His people being hostile toward each other because of unproductive arguments over points of non-essential theology. <br />EricJust a thoughthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01605692180717885883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22592352.post-32516297545333242792015-11-10T19:07:14.866+02:002015-11-10T19:07:14.866+02:00Blessings Brothers and Sisters, in North America, ...Blessings Brothers and Sisters, in North America, look up the Church of God of Abrahamic Faith. They are non-trinitarian with churches throughout the US and eastern Canada. One of their churches has an online live service weekly: lakeshorebible.net<br /><br />In Love, please consider your actions in support of a religion and pastors that teach the trinity. They do not serve our God, and their Jesus is not our Jesus. Paul reiterated the warnings well about a false version of doctrine, gospel, and Jesus. Do not go to a false church that you feel is false, instead separate your household. I believe we are glorifying satan by attending his version of Jesus and God. Teach your children and wives through your own hope and faith and resulting good works.LGDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08344116673325669608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22592352.post-54526126258053829802015-10-09T04:40:59.998+02:002015-10-09T04:40:59.998+02:00My husband and I would love to meet and fellowship...My husband and I would love to meet and fellowship with other non-trinitarian Adventists ("historic Adventists" as we have been called) in Ontario, Canada. We are not happy attending the mainstream churches now, given that we just don't believe what they are teaching about God. If anyone knows about a home church/group that meets in Ontario, or would like to start one, send me an e-mail at sm876@hotmail.comabigailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13092683163663557882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22592352.post-54283749742420538482015-10-05T09:19:54.831+02:002015-10-05T09:19:54.831+02:00The debate should end with this, the original mind...The debate should end with this, the original mindsets!!!!! It is in getting acquainted to that cultural reality that allows us to get closer to an unedited view of our Creator's Word and Works; and isn't that what we are called to do. Simple, let YHWH (the original Word and works of Elohim) teach us.... always keeping in mind that all else has been edited through the lense of it's translator; a Greek or Latin or German or French or English lense. Paraphrasing YH'shua (YH's salvation), "May Your Will (the Father's Word and Works) be done on earth (in us) as it is in heaven." Amein, amein. May YHWH's kingdom come an His Will be done, in YH'shua. www.thehebrewmessiah.com.<br />k-energyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00473281826004976030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22592352.post-853155834501815252015-09-20T02:21:07.069+02:002015-09-20T02:21:07.069+02:00I have been stood down as an elder and as a Sabbat...I have been stood down as an elder and as a Sabbath School teacher for the same reasons Richard has stated. The blessing of the truth is amazing. I also recommend www.trinitytruth.org. That site has helped me in the search of truth on this topic. Maybe house churches may be required.Murrayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15211155237460350509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22592352.post-70946353777466317212015-09-19T21:53:17.619+02:002015-09-19T21:53:17.619+02:00I am a non trinitarian Seventh day Adventist with ...I am a non trinitarian Seventh day Adventist with my family. We too have been marginalized.<br />I recommend revelation1412.org as a good place for literature. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07854655332816830091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22592352.post-8292594503697811112015-09-19T21:39:19.313+02:002015-09-19T21:39:19.313+02:00I live in Alberta Canada. My local church pastor h...I live in Alberta Canada. My local church pastor has told me I may no longer teach Sabbath school or preach in church simply because I have done what all the 7th day Adventist pioneers did- reject the doctrine of the trinity. I still go to church though, because I have a daughter who I feel must be brought up in church. I have told her and my wife the truth about God; 1. the Supreme God is the Father, 2. Jesus is the divine begotten Son of the father having inherited his nature, 3. the holy spirit is the omnipresence and power of the father and the son. I recommend www.revelation1412.org. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07854655332816830091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22592352.post-30889629875761957482015-09-12T10:04:48.947+02:002015-09-12T10:04:48.947+02:00only two beings share the eternal throne - father ...only <i>two</i> beings share the eternal throne - <b>father</b> and <b>son</b>.<br /><br />if you want to make EGW into a false prophet, first you must make her a prophet - which is a role she never once claimed.<br /><br />Leroy Froom (a Jesuit by his actions) spent most of last century steering the church body into trinitarianism. watch the Total Transformation video series by Walter Veith ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEZVzFbUYxM&list=PLmtiSpKWaiFCaC8HjaI1JUjjVbFBISGra ) to understand why. uniquely for a human organisation, the 7DA church organisation is a precise antetype for the tribes of Israel as the type. the organisation is doing exactly the same kinds of things in exactly the same order (good, bad or indifferent).<br /><br />with the above in mind, she exactly predicted 9/11 in many ways more than a century before it happened, yet the organisation went to the trouble of denying it.<br /><br />as Mr Petrovic said, the shaking is coming, very soon, and who am I to guess its exact nature?<br /><br />locals look at me oddly whenever I contravene trinitarian thinking, however after having survived a passive-aggressive narcissistic wife, honesty is my only policy. taking aboard the trinity is a step towards taking about the mark of the beast. not for me.<br /><br />Redmond WA is about 20 kilometres North of here, in which town there are zero Microsoft offices (hello from Albany, Western Australia).austuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18249117910853971058noreply@blogger.com